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« on: March 10, 2011, 02:59:59 AM »

By beating new levels can you go down ( not the good way ) in the leaderboard?
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2011, 03:31:18 AM »

I don't really mess around w/ the leaderboards because their still kind of a clusterfuck right now (cheaters/glitch times/etc).  But so far as your overall time percentage, sure, it can go down if you barely break even on A+'s for a chapter or so.  If we're talking about the Global Leaderboard. 

But someone who knows better than I do will know for sure.  The leaderboard itself for Meat Boy could have been amazing, since the game is all about constant improvement, time windows, rhythm, etc...each could have had a dedicated "meta leaderboard".  I would have loved to have seen a in-game Trophy (not achievement) system built around personal improvement.  But it would be close to impossible to code and test properly...but it'd be neat idea.
 
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2011, 04:19:58 AM »

I don't know the specifications but generally: the more levels beat = the better position in leaderboard.

However overall time is factored in the mix in the way that someone with X time and 300 levels beat might have better rank than X+Y(Y could be hundred(s) of seconds) time and 301 levels beat.

So as an example (I'm pretty sure this is legit comparison although I don't know the time values):

Rank 1: 2500s time 300 levels
Rank 2: 3000s time 301 levels

Rank 1: 3000s time 301 levels
Rank 2: 2980s time 300 levels

My advice: beat as many levels as you can first, worry about time later.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2011, 06:17:22 AM »

I'm pretty sure every level you haven't beaten defaults to something like 60 seconds until you complete it. Therefore, I guess it's possible to actually do worse, but it's highly unlikely.

It's also very possible that I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about. It's been a while.
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 02:02:23 PM »

the leaderboards are sorted like this:

1000 * levels beaten - total time (all in seconds)
and you want the highest score possible.

therefore if you take more than 1000 seconds on a level your score will go down.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2011, 03:39:57 PM »

the leaderboards are sorted like this:

1000 * levels beaten - total time (all in seconds)
and you want the highest score possible.

therefore if you take more than 1000 seconds on a level your score will go down.

Close, but not quite.

Global is (levels completed * 1 million) - (total time * 1000)

That number determines your rank.  The higher, the better.  Reason for its "weird" math is to remove decimal points to total time which brings the total time up into the millions; therefore the levels completed math had to be brought in into the millions as well.

Also note, that warp zones add 5 seconds per stage to your total time.  12 warp levels in 5 chapters brings the possible second total to 300.  You can remove a vast majority of this 300 (but not all as I will explain in a second) by simply beating the stages again and they won't disappear UNLESS you improve a time on any level.  No, turning the game off and reopening it does not work, nor does simply clearing a level even if it's not an improvement.  Further note, character warps do NOT act the same way as regular warps.  Instead of dropping down to 0.000 in the save data upon clear, they will only decrease IF you are lower than 5 seconds on clearing them.  Therefore something like Commander Video can go from 5 second entries to 3 second entries if ran real fast.  But levels like The Kid cannot cause a reduced time if you are trying to get the most time squeezed out of your save.  Just like other warps, they will go back to 5 seconds upon improving another time.
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2011, 02:59:23 PM »

This is my first time posting on this board. Ive lurked a little bit trying to find out ways to improve time. I read the previous poster's comment 'bout the warp zones n tried it out myself.
It worked out great at first, but when i tried it on the Salt Factory world n it added 90 seconds to my overall time. Just wondering if anyone could answer as to why?

Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2011, 03:12:15 PM »

This is my first time posting on this board. Ive lurked a little bit trying to find out ways to improve time. I read the previous poster's comment 'bout the warp zones n tried it out myself.
It worked out great at first, but when i tried it on the Salt Factory world n it added 90 seconds to my overall time. Just wondering if anyone could answer as to why?

Thanks in advance.

Like I said previously, if you improve a time (even clearing a level previously not uncleared does count) it will wipe out your times on warps.
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2011, 03:24:53 PM »

ah ok, i get it now.
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2011, 03:44:15 PM »

all those seconds just got taken off.
So confusing.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2011, 06:19:57 PM »

Yeah... it really is a clusterfuck. I got the 0.00 glitch, but it was more of a 0.02 glitch.
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2011, 07:21:39 PM »

do people have any advantage in the leaderboards using this technique? i'm running out of times that i can easily improve yet there are people on the leaderboards with hundreds of seconds over me. i havent used any of the glitches on alien hominoid or that pink character yet, mostly cos i couldnt figure it out. i dont want to but i reckon it's the last avenue i got to explore i wouldnt consider that cheating as much as just using what the game can do, but this warp zone time thingy seems a bit too much like a cheat. if it works... help (stop me!)
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