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[SatoruKimu]

So SMW sucks because you can't compete with the community? Seriously?  

[..]A couple of the Chapters seem very amateurish[...]

There are people who only play games like this to show off their leaderboard ranks.

I will love it when the Level Editor comes out, and very very VERY amateurish levels come out, but thank oden for the voting system :3

Point1: Woha. I expect that to be the worst post to hit these forums today. [...], I have not met any of them here.

Point2: I have 20 or so of the top players on my steam friend list [...]

Point1: Just because you disagree with my position doesn't makes this a "day's worst post".
You can't say that people, who extreme trying to be on number one of some stupid leaderboards, just do this for the fun.
I'm one of these gamers who wants hard levels to complete, were I get frustrated while don't managing to finish them, but partying when I got finally through.

Point2: You really think this is in my area of interests? You sound like a hipster here who is like: "Yeah, I got alex evans and so many kewl scene kids on my facebook list".

[LeetFruitBoy]

SMW no.

Level Editor yup(so far)

[Debug Mode]

What's even more horrifying is that supposedly they made it so that you have to use this feature in SMW to pass some levels.

That is most definitely false. If a level was so broken that it was not possible without exploits, Team Meat would never add it.

But anyway, I'm not really disappointed in it. I am a bit disappointed, but I won't be when it's completely finished. What would make me REALLY disappointed is if they never added in SMW recognizing level completion.

No, it's not "most definitely false"... 5 Levels were added for the ARG competition and those Levels CAN'T be completed, therefore they could NOT be uploaded unless they used some kind of a trick.

All Super Meat World levels are yet stored offline in the gamedat.dat
No level is uploaded yet

[Chase]

So SMW sucks because you can't compete with the community? Seriously?  

[..]A couple of the Chapters seem very amateurish[...]

There are people who only play games like this to show off their leaderboard ranks.

I will love it when the Level Editor comes out, and very very VERY amateurish levels come out, but thank oden for the voting system :3

Point1: Woha. I expect that to be the worst post to hit these forums today. [...], I have not met any of them here.

Point2: I have 20 or so of the top players on my steam friend list [...]

Point1: Just because you disagree with my position doesn't makes this a "day's worst post".
You can't say that people, who extreme trying to be on number one of some stupid leaderboards, just do this for the fun.
I'm one of these gamers who wants hard levels to complete, were I get frustrated while don't managing to finish them, but partying when I got finally through.

Point2: You really think this is in my area of interests? You sound like a hipster here who is like: "Yeah, I got alex evans and so many kewl scene kids on my facebook list".

Who are you to claim what can and can't be fun to people? You do know that different people like different things right? Saying what you said is so narrow minded that I hope you're just trying to troll me. I mean for your own sake that's would be a good thing in this situation as its leagues better than the alternative.

I'm sorry, I was wrong. The latest post you did right there is the worst post of the day. Congratulations. On the worst-post-of-the-day-leader-board you now have 2 and that's a high score right there! And I thought you didn't like that aspect of games.. Oh you!

It's not that I disagree with your point of view as much as the fact that you did seem to bash "the silly elitists". Maybe you didn't intend to do so, but that's how your post can be read. You seem to go more on person than subject and while that is your choice, it does make you about as contributing to this forum as one of those people who act like a "meme generators". (Spoiler: those people are cool!)


As for the 2nd part where you try accuse me of "name dropping" when I'm actually not dropping any names. Its a new thing on the internet and its called "reference". You know when someone makes a claim, they try to offer some proof to it so that it doesn't just seem like they are throwing wild random accusations out there. (Much like you did.) Let me hold your hand through this:

I Chase, talk to other people who like to focus on the competition part of the game. (We find this *gasp* fun!) When I talk to them the chats does not go like this: "LOL CHECK OUT MY TIME ON LEVEL X-X IM GOING TO GO POST IT ONLINE CAUSE IM THE BESTEST!!! ALSO IM SAD ON THE INSIDE AS THIS IS NOT FUN :(". It does however go more like this "Hey, nice time you got on level x-x. Ive been trying to beat it for an hour now. Did you do this and that?"

While it's "fun" to have this off topic thing going, Im going to reserve my right to not reply to you anymore unless you stay on topic. Feel free to call me any name that will make you feel better about yourself! ("Hipster" is good and barely overused! Same with "Tool". "Idiot" is too old school for a rebel like yourself. How about "nazi"?)

:)

What's even more horrifying is that supposedly they made it so that you have to use this feature in SMW to pass some levels.

That is most definitely false. If a level was so broken that it was not possible without exploits, Team Meat would never add it.

But anyway, I'm not really disappointed in it. I am a bit disappointed, but I won't be when it's completely finished. What would make me REALLY disappointed is if they never added in SMW recognizing level completion.

No, it's not "most definitely false"... 5 Levels were added for the ARG competition and those Levels CAN'T be completed, therefore they could NOT be uploaded unless they used some kind of a trick.

Yeah, I know about them. The thing is, he said there were levels that required use of the ALT-glitch to be completed. These levels are simply impossible to beat. They're unbeatable, exploits or not.

And that would be why people would be a little grumpy over the delay only to find maps that are impossible to beat without using a glitch. And when you glitchingly complete them it doesn't register it


/Chase the "nazi hipster".

[StealthAngel667]

Can anyone please point me to these levels that need ALT skipping to complete? Because I'm quite sure I haven't seen them. A lot of levels in SMW look plain ridiculously stupid, but not actually impossible.

[Insani99999]

I don't really like Super Meat World.

So yes, I am disappointed.

[TheGreatFreshLOL]

Can anyone please point me to these levels that need ALT skipping to complete? Because I'm quite sure I haven't seen them. A lot of levels in SMW look plain ridiculously stupid, but not actually impossible.

It's the ones related to the Valve Potato ARG, as they are impossible otherwise.

[Banjo7J]

What's even more horrifying is that supposedly they made it so that you have to use this feature in SMW to pass some levels.

That is most definitely false. If a level was so broken that it was not possible without exploits, Team Meat would never add it.

But anyway, I'm not really disappointed in it. I am a bit disappointed, but I won't be when it's completely finished. What would make me REALLY disappointed is if they never added in SMW recognizing level completion.

No, it's not "most definitely false"... 5 Levels were added for the ARG competition and those Levels CAN'T be completed, therefore they could NOT be uploaded unless they used some kind of a trick.

Yeah, I know about them. The thing is, he said there were levels that required use of the ALT-glitch to be completed. These levels are simply impossible to beat. They're unbeatable, exploits or not.

And that would be why people would be a little grumpy over the delay only to find maps that are impossible to beat without using a glitch. And when you glitchingly complete them it doesn't register it


/Chase the "nazi hipster".

You aren't supposed to beat them. Hell, you can't beat them. There is no Bandage Girl in any of the impossible levels, hence why they are impossible. Even if you do glitch, you still can't beat them. Getting grumpy because you can't beat a level you're not intended to beat is like being grumpy because there are no glitches in a game. It works the way it's intended to, so there's nothing to complain about, therefore you're complaining about nothing.

[Code92]

SMW no.

Level Editor yup(so far)

Neither SMW or the level editor is done yet so i do not think we should judge it just yet.
From how it looks now its pretty damn good and it gets the job done, if you ask me its going to be even better when its done. Though im not making levels in the editor yet sins the camera controles are still messed up.. and the lighting.. but its working now at least ^^

[Chase]

What's even more horrifying is that supposedly they made it so that you have to use this feature in SMW to pass some levels.

That is most definitely false. If a level was so broken that it was not possible without exploits, Team Meat would never add it.

But anyway, I'm not really disappointed in it. I am a bit disappointed, but I won't be when it's completely finished. What would make me REALLY disappointed is if they never added in SMW recognizing level completion.

No, it's not "most definitely false"... 5 Levels were added for the ARG competition and those Levels CAN'T be completed, therefore they could NOT be uploaded unless they used some kind of a trick.

Yeah, I know about them. The thing is, he said there were levels that required use of the ALT-glitch to be completed. These levels are simply impossible to beat. They're unbeatable, exploits or not.

And that would be why people would be a little grumpy over the delay only to find maps that are impossible to beat without using a glitch. And when you glitchingly complete them it doesn't register it


/Chase the "nazi hipster".

You aren't supposed to beat them. Hell, you can't beat them. There is no Bandage Girl in any of the impossible levels, hence why they are impossible. Even if you do glitch, you still can't beat them. Getting grumpy because you can't beat a level you're not intended to beat is like being grumpy because there are no glitches in a game. It works the way it's intended to, so there's nothing to complain about, therefore you're complaining about nothing.

Ah shit, you sort of caught me on that one. When I replied to you I didn't really care to read exactly what you wrote. I just needed someone with an opinion to quote so I could keep on topic. Again sorry! It was more about tearing into that other guy. About 98% him and 2% you :/.


On page 1 I wrote:

What's even more horrifying is that supposedly they made it so that you have to use this feature in SMW to pass some levels. If this is true then I'm just... I'm at a loss really. Honestly if you know that this is NOT true, then I would really want you to point this out and explain wrong I am as if it is true then this game in a competitive setting is not worth putting effort into.

/Chase

But you told me that it was wrong and for that Im happy. Good stuff!

I would thank you more, but that circular reasoning thing at the end of your post was horrible, just plain horrible. Had you stopped typing after this:

You aren't supposed to beat them. Hell, you can't beat them. There is no Bandage Girl in any of the impossible levels, hence why they are impossible. Even if you do glitch, you still can't beat them.

Then it would have been a really good post. But you had to had to try to be fancy. Seriously, circular reasoning? Google it and never do it again please, it does not make anyone seem clever ever. Let me quote Wikipedia on that one "Such an argument is fallacious, because it relies upon its own proposition" And if Wikipedia tells you that you are wrong, then you probably are!

SMW no.

Level Editor yup(so far)

Neither SMW or the level editor is done yet so i do not think we should judge it just yet.
From how it looks now its pretty damn good and it gets the job done, if you ask me its going to be even better when its done. Though im not making levels in the editor yet sins the camera controles are still messed up.. and the lighting.. but its working now at least ^^

I agree totally mate. Can't wait for them to be done with the level editor! 

/Chase

[Banjo7J]

OK, not to start another argument or anything, but how exactly is that circular reasoning? The argument doesn't rely on itself being true.

[bullexcrements]

Can anyone please point me to these levels that need ALT skipping to complete? Because I'm quite sure I haven't seen them. A lot of levels in SMW look plain ridiculously stupid, but not actually impossible.

http://valvearg.com/wiki/Super_Meat_Boy#April_12th_Update

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpGhu5xfZJg - my vid recorded in the update day (few wrong informations there, as you can see in link above)


And about SMW - almost all levels are fun to play, BUT if you can't A+ them on the world map it kinda takes away the 'need' of completing them, you know what I'm sayin? So overall - SMW is nice, but it could be better :P

[RyokoTK]

Disappointment continues: it's now nearly two weeks since the last "deadline" flew by and there haven't even been any empty promises of how they're still working on it. Meanwhile their ad on the Newgrounds store claims it includes a full level editor. The Ultra Edition must be for an entirely different game.

It's like when you buy one of those humble indie bundles only to find out that 3 of the games you bought are in beta. Ah, Cortex Command, how you somehow were listed as a "game" in HIB2...

[Blatch]

Disappointment continues: it's now nearly two weeks since the last "deadline" flew by and there haven't even been any empty promises of how they're still working on it.

I immediately knew something was up, when Team Meat starting ignoring all of my Twitter Updates. I know a lot of people have Twitter Accounts, and not all of their questions get answered every day, but still... I even asked them different questions, such as wether Alien Homonid would be gone by the next update, hoping for a release date... but still, no dice.

It seems even my patience is getting thinner as we speak...

[QcChopper]

This is ridiculous, I wouldn't be so pissed if I didn't love the game this much but still, I am getting more pissed each day.