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[RockLeeSmile]

Also, before I leave this thread for now, check out this link:

http://supermeatboy.com/57/Super_Update_/#b

It's an update from November 10th 2010. Of note is the FAQ portion toward the bottom where it is said that they will "fine tune the editor and level portal into a super smooth piece of awesomeness that will keep the community going for years."

I'm just saying that because I think it's silly to say that nobody will care about SMW next year...

[GameRoom]

Agreeing so hard, but we all know that no matter what logic and valid points you guys use, Edmund won't do this...

...unless someone finds out where Tommy lives and forces him at gunpoint to finish everything.

[Chase]

Ryoko hasn't been banned, the OP is most likely an imposter. I'll have to verify this with him in the IRC though.
Ryoko deleted his account.  


Until then, here's something you should all keep in mind.

You did not pay for the Level Editor. You did not pay for Super Meat World.
You paid for Super Meat Boy as it was since release (After the first week of bugfixes of course). The game was complete when you bought it and at no point in time (After the first week) was it ever incomplete.
Super Meat World and the Level Editor were completely free additions*.

Let me break that down:

• Completely Free
• Additions

All you're entitled to from your purchase of Super Meat Boy was everything you've already had since release. Anything else is an extra bonus that didn't have to be made in the first place.


_{*Except for Team Meat who are paying for the level server out of pocket.}

I read what you say here, but it doesn't really hold any merit when they claimed to have made a lot of money of SMB.

How can you take pity to someone who got paid a lot for a job that they didn't finish? They claim to be finished, but a lot of people seem to disagree.
 
It annoys the fuck out of me that they seem to consider some of the posts not in their favor for "dickish". Ive seen some people go a little overboard in their anger, but it is justified. The game is so awesome and it promotes competition in a brilliant way. But the game is not being taken seriously by TM.

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15 years ago two brothers made a little game called "Across" and quickly followed it by another game called "Elasto Mania". These two games are still played to this day. The games were overall far worse than SMB is, but the fans took it to their hearts and the records of both games are still being updated http://www.moposite.com/records_elma_wrs.php. The concept is the same more or less, you race levels on a motorbike and you compete vs friends and foes. (They later went on to make the Motorcross Mania games amongst other games)

The money that these two made in the initial year of the game does not come close to what they made overall. The games were worse than SMB, but they were easy to get into and people would spend so much time competing with times and such. I know that SMB could be just like Across and Elasto Mania.

I'm not asking for new features to the game, I'm not asking for anything unreasonable here. I just want freaking bugs fixed and I want Edmund to not act like spoiled little whiny kid about it. You've more or less told people to fuck the game and it makes me ask myself what the hell is wrong with you? If I'll ever be involved in making games (I wont be.) then Ill communicate with the community and be humble and polite about it. Sure some people will always be dicks and you can ignore them, but when the community has started an uproar towards you then its quite clear that YOU fucked up.

But good luck with your new game, you failed your community with the first game and I'm sure no one will hold a grudge towards you online. Personally I cant wait to write unfavorable reviews towards your next game on various gaming sites based on your actions here today. I mean it almost writes itself. If your new game is not 100% polished then it will be so easy to tear it a new one based on what you've done with SMB. (or not done with it)

Edmund, you're acting like a total ass.


/Chase

[Chase]

Also, before I leave this thread for now, check out this link:

http://supermeatboy.com/57/Super_Update_/#b

It's an update from November 10th 2010. Of note is the FAQ portion toward the bottom where it is said that they will "fine tune the editor and level portal into a super smooth piece of awesomeness that will keep the community going for years."

I'm just saying that because I think it's silly to say that nobody will care about SMW next year...

I didn't think that SMB would fade, but due to how Edmund is handling the game I'm pretty sure he can manage to make people lose interest in the game like he wants.

[Stevolutionary]

People here need to shut the fuck up and grow up. You paid just $10 for a game that has provided months and months of enjoyment, yet you still find things to whine about and type entire pages on over periods of weeks, even regarding FREE elements like the editor and SMW? Pathetic.

Personally I'd ban you too. The game is a fantastic achievement, and I personally could not give two shits if a bunch of OCD leaderboard obsessives aren't happy. You people never are. The mindset of someone who wastes hours of their lives doing something as inconsequential as re-running a level hundreds of times to take .01 of a second off a time doesn't lend itself well to social interaction.

The game as it stands (from level 1 to 310) is an amazing achievemnt. Everything else is inconsequential, as are your complaints about them.

[Stevolutionary]

This game has sold well over 600,000 copies. The critical response has likewise been universal acclaim.

The voice of 10 or so people maximum, endlessly spamming these forums with petty and trivial, overblown and self-pitying complaints are irellevent. You views mean nothing and nobody cares.

The problem isn't with the game, it is with you and your childish attitude, and the tragedy is there's no patch for that.

[The_End254]

yet you still find things to whine about and type entire pages on over periods of weeks, even regarding FREE elements like the editor and SMW? Pathetic.

Considering the editor AND SMW were selling points BEFORE the game was released, why wouldn't we complain if they weren't working properly?

Personally I'd ban you too. The game is a fantastic achievement, and I personally could not give two shits if a bunch of OCD leaderboard obsessives aren't happy. You people never are.

Getting better times makes people want to play the game to beat friends or whatever, it adds to the fun/replayability of the game, of course people want that to work properly!

"Oh I beat your time! Oh shit it's a 0.00, ah well, can't run this level with you anymore"
That totally ruins it for some people btw.

There should be a manual reset button for the regular levels so we can at least do something about it ourselves.

I think you need to stop giving the game so much praise, it deserves loads don't get me wrong I love the game but there are still problems that ruin the enjoyment for alot of people.

The problem isn't with the game, it is with you and your childish attitude, and the tragedy is there's no patch for that.

I think you need to chill out, there are problems and people complain. Is this new to you? I think you need to grow up.

[Chase]

This game has sold well over 600,000 copies. The critical response has likewise been universal acclaim.

The voice of 10 or so people maximum, endlessly spamming these forums with petty and trivial, overblown and self-pitying complaints are irellevent. You views mean nothing and nobody cares.

The problem isn't with the game, it is with you and your childish attitude, and the tragedy is there's no patch for that.

Actually the problem is within the game with the bugs and what not. But Im glad you took your time to post here, we need more people to post about the "wrong way of playing the game".

The world need more people like yourself who will randomly make up numbers and tell people what they can and cant do based on their own inability to accomplish anything.

If you are happy with everything within the game then I'm happy for you. That's super fantastic, but please fuck off with the assumptions. I'm not assuming nor saying that you are fairly average and bound to never accomplish anything worth mentioning, so why would you randomly assume things about "me" ?

[RockLeeSmile]

This game has sold well over 600,000 copies. The critical response has likewise been universal acclaim.

The voice of 10 or so people maximum, endlessly spamming these forums with petty and trivial, overblown and self-pitying complaints are irellevent. You views mean nothing and nobody cares.

The problem isn't with the game, it is with you and your childish attitude, and the tragedy is there's no patch for that.

You have a right to your opinion (just like those who disagree with you do), but through the course of our interactions on the SMB boards, I've never quite understood your agenda... you sometimes seem to take things personally that have nothing to do with you.

[Maruhai]

@maruhai: FML steal...steal..._steal.

I don't even know what FML is.

Oh. OK. In that case it ws just very similar to a FML I read.

FML stands for Fuck my Life, where people send in embarassing moments and such. I just thought, seince it was started in France...

Oh yeah you're talking about that, in France it's known as VDM, that stands for Vie De Merde, translated in Shitty Life (probably more like My Life is Shitty).

For an optopic post, I'll just say that:

Edmund is complaining about us being acting like ass, but he also act like an ass.
Hey Edmund just wanted to point it out but you're not in Super Meat Boy, if you'll fail, you won't just respawn at the release date of Super Meat Boy, you'll loose a big part of your fanbase, probably forever.

[RockLeeSmile]

@maruhai: FML steal...steal..._steal.

I don't even know what FML is.

Oh. OK. In that case it ws just very similar to a FML I read.

FML stands for Fuck my Life, where people send in embarassing moments and such. I just thought, seince it was started in France...

Oh yeah you're talking about that, in France it's known as VDM, that stands for Vie De Merde, translated in Shitty Life (probably more like My Life is Shitty).

For an optopic post, I'll just say that:

Edmund is complaining about us being acting like ass, but he also act like an ass.
Hey Edmund just wanted to point it out but you're not in Super Meat Boy, if you'll fail, you won't just respawn at the release date of Super Meat Boy, you'll loose a big part of your fanbase, probably forever.

Wow, that's an unexpectedly different way to put it.

[GameRoom]

What everyone else said. This is a terrible thing we're dealing with and I demand justice.

[Blatch]

Ryoko hasn't been banned, the OP is most likely an imposter. I'll have to verify this with him in the IRC though.
Ryoko deleted his account.  

Aww... that's too sad. I'll be sure to him for that.

Also, I agree with what Stevolutionary said, just using less harsh words. If there's only about 10 people maximum complaining about the game, then I'm pretty sure their complaining could be considered "useless"! Maybe I will be one of the only ones to ever forget about all of the glitches in the portal + level editor. That would be just sad!

Bottom line? Everybody just needs to suck it up. Of course everyone has their different things about the game they like, and I respect them for that. But acting like pussies the entire time they're here is just annoying for all of us who "get it".

Also, I wish RyokoTK would come back. That, and this thread is really depressing.

[RockLeeSmile]

Here's another point toward the seeming convergence of ideals that this game, like life , was never meant to last, despite nods toward the contrary...

How long will the SMW level server continue to be paid for? After that, what means will we have for even playing custom levels at all? Will the game's internal infrastructure be permanently crippled and left as a remnant of what there used to be? I doubt if there's this level of resistance now, that there will be much or anything done to make a transition away from this dependency when the time comes and people actually have moved on.

I wonder if a more efficient and economical solution would have been to only rely on individual websites and forums for level distribution instead of a main internal level hub which needs to be maintained and paid for. The peer review process would have taken place external to the .exe (as it had on the forums prior to SMW) and the best levels still would have risen to the top.

Eventually the community will be put in a position where, when there is no server, we will be required to possibly "hack" (I use the term very loosely here) our custom levels into the main game... which we could have done when dev mode was the only option for editing. In a way, SMW was engineered to be a self-defeating process.

[Jintek]

^^^I was thinking the same thing in regard to the server eventually not being paid for, it happens to much bigger games all the time.  I guess that's another reason why the community should be pushing for a solid product/service right now (no bugs, A+, completion, optimization, leaderboard fixes etc) because in 6 months it'll be a forgone conclusion.  

This is sort of our corner of time where we will either get the product/service we want (and paid for concerning bugs, glitches, stability problems) or we'll never get it and SMB will never be what it could have been on PC if it truly took full advantage of the Steam platform.  I'm just waiting for a modder one day to come out and say "Hey, this game is a patch work 360 port, hence the enormous amount of bugs since release that continue today".  And I mean regarding the server again, if the day ever comes where it goes away...the 360 version will be the unarguable superior version which is sad, XBL is very different concerning content like this...

Anyway, hopefully no matter what happens the game can at least get 90% stable across the recommended requirements and we'll still be able to play user level like we did w/ devmode.