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« on: January 30, 2011, 11:06:48 PM »

Discussing the topic of homosexuality in a civil manner.

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GAY PEOPLE SAWK CAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS SO OMG GO PALIN LULZ
or super insulting and terribly written like that go ahead and post your thoughts.



I'm a homosexual myself and I know a lot of people who are. It's hard for me to see why people have problems with it. Homophobia is just ridiculous.
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2011, 12:18:55 AM »

I personally don't give a damn who is with whom. As long as no one is being forced into it against their will, it's fine by me.

I asked one of my bisexual friends why I don't cringe or anything whenever the topic turns to something that a homophobe would get away from immediately. He told me that I am "sexually assured" essentially meaning that I know that I am I am straight and I have no doubt in that claim. Apparently, some people fear talking about potentially-gay subjects because they fear that they may discover that they enjoy it. Personally, I know what I like and what I do not like, I have no idea why others can't reassure themselves somehow.
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011, 12:20:51 AM »

I know a couple of homosexual people at school and I'm completely fine with it.

I think some guys are afraid because they stereotype gays as people who will come on to every guy they see, when we all know it isn't true :/
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2011, 12:36:49 AM »

I might not stay very civil once I start thinking about this, but I'll try.

So, yeah, I tend to watch and study other people and I'm pretty much a cynic.

Many people are narrow-minded sleepwalking idiots who live by their assumptions and rely to them as they were some kind of universal facts. Many people are also very bad at adapting to new information. The issue can be anything from homosexuality through Noah's ark and dinosaurs to stock markets, but the same people always keep assuming a lot of things. It's a way to live and I like how Laotse put it:

"There are three ways to get information:
1. By thinking, the noble way
2. Through trial and error, the hard way
3. By copying others, the easy way"

These people who often assume usually tend to fall under the third one of Laotse's options. I generally think that the main difference between blind idiocy and open-minded reason is that idiots always take arguments personally and immediately stop thinking when their pride is hit because they are never actually defending their point but their way to get information...

So, how does this all relate to homosexuality? Well, the masses in many countries are raised and guided to live in an assumption that gays are "unnatural", and the only strong provider for such an idiotic perception about the unknown/unpleasant reality is the one that bases it's foundation mostly on assumptions and irrationality... Blame Abrahamic religions for oppressing minorities and getting away with it like nothing. Blame the masses for not thinking for themselves which in this case means that they silently approve of the oppression. If most people weren't so completely adapted to that one and only "right" way to think about homosexuality and saw how fucked up their outlearned opinions really are, things could change a lot faster to meet reality.

But what can you expect from people who have come a long way until passively adapted to the thought that they live inside an invisible bubble outside the nature waiting for their "soul" to detach from the material body after death..? Seriously.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2011, 02:02:00 AM »

I personally don't give a damn who is with whom. As long as no one is being forced into it against their will, it's fine by me.

signed.

I find it hard to interact with the ones that are always rubbing in that they are gay. Makes it hard for me to take them serious, but I'm glad I met many exceptions.
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2011, 05:36:57 AM »

I don't have a problem with gays, but I do find bisexuality a little odd.
Mainly it's just the polyamorous ones who rub me the wrong way, and for all I know they could be a tiny minority, but I just find it very strange to have, say, 2 boyfriends and a girlfriend. Stranger still is their partners consent, or denial, of the situation.
But then, it's not like I'm going to go out bi-bashing because of it, just think it's a little weird is all.


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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2011, 05:41:45 AM »

Many people are narrow-minded...

But what can you expect from people who have come a long way until passively adapted to the thought that they live inside an invisible bubble outside the nature waiting for their "soul" to detach from the material body after death..? Seriously.

That last part sounded pretty narrow minded to me. Relying solely on logic is a narrow minded way of thinking, no two ways about it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2011, 05:49:29 AM »

Many people are narrow-minded...

But what can you expect from people who have come a long way until passively adapted to the thought that they live inside an invisible bubble outside the nature waiting for their "soul" to detach from the material body after death..? Seriously.

That last part sounded pretty narrow minded to me. Relying solely on logic is a narrow minded way of thinking, no two ways about it.

You're right about that. I tend to sink with stupidity instead of keeping my thoughts above it. Something I'm definitely not proud of.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2011, 06:10:56 AM »

Many people are narrow-minded...

But what can you expect from people who have come a long way until passively adapted to the thought that they live inside an invisible bubble outside the nature waiting for their "soul" to detach from the material body after death..? Seriously.

That last part sounded pretty narrow minded to me. Relying solely on logic is a narrow minded way of thinking, no two ways about it.

You're right about that. I tend to sink with stupidity instead of keeping my thoughts above it. Something I'm definitely not proud of.

I'm really surprised, someone who's actually a reasonable person, on the internet?!!?

Joking aside, it's only in our nature to fight fire with fire, and in the face of such blind determinism, even arguing on a level that they could be right only incenses them to insist that they are definitely right.

So long as, after the fact, you can consider the argument in a balanced manner, yours is a fine stance to take in my opinion.
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2011, 07:42:24 AM »

I'm cool with gay people, but I disapprove of their monopoly on rainbows 
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2011, 08:37:12 AM »

My general rule of thumb is as long as I am not being hit on by said homosexual(s), then I have no problem with the lifestyle they have chosen. A few of my friends are gay. I was uncomfortable with it at first, but got used to it pretty quickly, they are my friends after all.
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2011, 10:50:58 AM »

So okay at first there goes a kudos to sh00takai for quoting Laotse.
And for his opinion on the matter of thinking and getting information/learning.
Many true things in that/many things that I agree on.

But no matter what, I am.. well, you could consider it bisexual, but the right term would be pansexual, as I only care for that my partner I am in love with is a human being. I don't care about gender. I don't care wether it is a man, a woman or something inbetween.
There ya go.
But I do think a lot about anything and everything and I am kind of a hippie. I love nature and all that. And so I came to think that it would be best/most naturally, to get mysef a girl. So considering that I am searching for a girl but wouldn't care too much if I fall in love with somebody not being a girl.
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I don't know if my strange opinion is clear or not but I'm just a dude on the internet so yall shoulndt care to much I guess 

Seriously though, gay people are cool, most I know.
But there are people I don't like, who behave idiotic and only care about themselves. I made that description of the kind of people that I don't like very short, but I don't want you to read too much of my shit. So there are people who I don't like and that goes by behaviour. And if one of those is gay then it's just because of his behaviour and not because he's gay.
Anyone, no matter the sexuality, religion or whatever, can be a cool person.

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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2011, 12:19:30 PM »

I know a couple of homosexual people at school and I'm completely fine with it.

I think some guys are afraid because they stereotype gays as people who will come on to every guy they see, when we all know it isn't true :/

I was the straight kid the gay kids at my school hit on.  They all assumed I was one of them because one of my childhood friends was a lesbian, so I was constantly hanging out with her.  But in all truthfulness, it was flattering instead of disturbing.  I always thought of it in the same terms as an ugly girl hitting on me... it was nice to know they thought that of you, but they stood no chance   Never quite understood homophobia at all.  Guess I was blessed to have a gay friend most my life.
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2011, 05:02:24 PM »

To be honest, I find it funny that the thread on a forum (founded by a sexually-ambiguous duo who know someone who's lesbian and likes ropes and stuff) features a thread (Made by a homosexual) about homosexuality where people tell off imaginary conservatives for opposing them.

But in all seriousness gays are pretty cool.
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2011, 05:03:47 PM »

Never had a problem with any homosexuals, and I never will. ( Have some family who is gay / lesbian )
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