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« on: February 24, 2011, 08:32:49 PM »

Just a fun idea I had:

Publish your first level!
Publish 50 levels!
Publish 250 levels!
Create a character specific level!
Create a level specifically for Tofuboy (secret achievement.)
Die 50times while attempting to beat your own level (secret achievement)
Create a level that features at least 3 different kinds of hazards (saw/laser/ect.)

Stare into the abyss (beat a randomly selected player created chapter via "enter the unknown")
Beat 50 user made levels
Super Ultra Unpossible Boy (Beat every user made level ever) - Intentionally impossible achievement ;P
F**k Kayin Nasaki (beat Super Meat Boy Expert remix chapter without dying. FYI Kayin Nasaki is the name of the creator of "I wanna be the guy" the game the Kid is from, and the final level of Expert remix is The Kid's first level in SMB)
Sharing is raging (Beat a user made level created by someone on your friends list)

Feel free to name the ones I didn't and come up with your own :D
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2011, 08:41:19 PM »

Just a fun idea I had:

Publish your first level!
Publish 50 levels!
Publish 250 levels!

Publish is a bad idea.  It would entice people to upload shit.  Create, maybe

Create a character specific level!

all levels are character specific (for now) so that's another no go

Create a level specifically for Tofuboy (secret achievement.)

I'd be down with that I guess

Die 50times while attempting to beat your own level (secret achievement)

No non-achievements.  Team Meat doesn't like them

Create a level that features at least 3 different kinds of hazards (saw/laser/ect.)

Its an alright idea, but anything involving creating is way too easy

Stare into the abyss (beat a randomly selected player created chapter via "enter the unknown")
Beat 50 user made levels

no to the first, yes the the second.

Super Ultra Unpossible Boy (Beat every user made level ever) - Intentionally impossible achievement ;P

this would be funny, but Valve would never allow it.

F**k Kayin Nasaki (beat Super Meat Boy Expert remix chapter without dying. FYI Kayin Nasaki is the name of the creator of "I wanna be the guy" the game the Kid is from, and the final level of Expert remix is The Kid's first level in SMB)

Get rid of Fuck and replace it with another word and it sounds legit

Sharing is raging (Beat a user made level created by someone on your friends list)

TOO EASY

Feel free to name the ones I didn't and come up with your own :D

I can't remember if it was me or someone else who thought this one up, but:
Random Boy - Beat a max difficulty "Enter the Unknown" without dying.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2011, 08:42:38 PM »

We will be eventually doing something like these, but ive learned not to award for number of submissions or peopel will spam to get them (we tested this in time fcuk)

but awards for holding highscores or getting featured levels/chapters is doable.

so is voting on X number of levels

we will do what we can to add stuff like this

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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2011, 09:05:48 PM »

We will be eventually doing something like these, but ive learned not to award for number of submissions or peopel will spam to get them (we tested this in time fcuk)

but awards for holding highscores or getting featured levels/chapters is doable.

so is voting on X number of levels

we will do what we can to add stuff like this

-Edmund

thank goodness edmund isn't doing achievements based around 'rush out five generic levels and get rewarded!!'
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2011, 09:12:44 PM »

I was actually expecting that sort of response had Edmund actually responded (and he did).

Although the highscore idea may become a problem until the glitched/cheated leaderboard times are rectified.
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2011, 09:18:25 PM »

getting featured levels/chapters is doable.

I would hate to be an achievement whore who can unlock impossible boy but can't make levels for shit.  It would drive me off the wall to have that one remaining achievement sitting there just waiting for me to make something loved by Team Meat 
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2011, 09:23:22 PM »

I would hate to be an achievement whore who can unlock impossible boy but can't make levels for shit.  It would drive me off the wall to have that one remaining achievement sitting there just waiting for me to make something loved by Team Meat 
If I am understanding correctly, getting featured is different from being included in Teh Internets. There are to be stages that are featured to be played through in Super Meat World based on their ratings and difficulty.

If I am misinformed, please correct me.
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2011, 09:25:33 PM »

Maybe.  I assumed being featured was similar to being on teh internets but easier.  Either way, you still need to be damn good at making levels to be featured probably.
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2011, 09:59:36 PM »

yes featured is a bit different then the internets promotion. more chapters and level will be featured then will be uploaded to xbla.

basically every week/month/whenever we feel like it. tommy and i will promote 5 chapters and 5 levels to the featured page of super meat world.

Super Meat World has 3 basic menus in side it
1.Featured (shows most recently featured chapters and levels)
2.The Unknown (simulates a 20 level game from levels in the portal with high in over all fun ranked in order of dificulty, you select your base difficultly before you start)
3.The Portal (shows single level entries and chapters that you can arrange by upload date, difficulty, overall score, tile set and character. you will also eventually be able to search for name and other tags later on)
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2011, 10:06:32 PM »

yes featured is a bit different then the internets promotion. more chapters and level will be featured then will be uploaded to xbla.

basically every week/month/whenever we feel like it. tommy and i will promote 5 chapters and 5 levels to the featured page of super meat world.

Super Meat World has 3 basic menus in side it
1.Featured (shows most recently featured chapters and levels)
2.The Unknown (simulates a 20 level game from levels in the portal with high in over all fun ranked in order of dificulty, you select your base difficultly before you start)
3.The Portal (shows single level entries and chapters that you can arrange by upload date, difficulty, overall score, tile set and character. you will also eventually be able to search for name and other tags later on)

Damn, that sounds just about perfect!
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2011, 10:07:35 PM »

yes featured is a bit different then the internets promotion. more chapters and level will be featured then will be uploaded to xbla.

basically every week/month/whenever we feel like it. tommy and i will promote 5 chapters and 5 levels to the featured page of super meat world.

Super Meat World has 3 basic menus in side it
1.Featured (shows most recently featured chapters and levels)
2.The Unknown (simulates a 20 level game from levels in the portal with high in over all fun ranked in order of dificulty, you select your base difficultly before you start)
3.The Portal (shows single level entries and chapters that you can arrange by upload date, difficulty, overall score, tile set and character. you will also eventually be able to search for name and other tags later on)

Damn, that sounds just about perfect!

I concur.

Good show my dear edmund.
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2011, 10:21:30 PM »

The only thing I'm worried about is that if a level is downrate-bombed too low to appear on enter the unknown, how will it ever be noticed?

There needs to be some kind of 'second chances enter the unknown' where the levels selected also include ones that don't have many votes yet even if they're low rated.
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2011, 10:27:30 PM »

The only thing I'm worried about is that if a level is downrate-bombed too low to appear on enter the unknown, how will it ever be noticed?

There needs to be some kind of 'second chances enter the unknown' where the levels selected also include ones that don't have many votes yet even if they're low rated.

I'm pretty sure they'd make it so there's a minimum number of votes required before it's taken out of the portal.

Either way, if you've got yourself 30+ votes and the average rating is 1.5, then there's nothing to be done for you. No second chance deserved as you simply failed.
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2011, 10:29:14 PM »

Alternative idea: The more you rate levels 1 the less powerful your vote becomes. After all, if you vote everything 1 then 1 is your average vote and shouldn't make levels any higher or lower rated. (It's bayesian!)
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2011, 10:44:01 PM »

Then the same would have to apply if you rate everything too high, if we were thinking of keeping it fair...

I think it's not right to have a system that dictates how high your ratings should be. I think people should be allowed to do whatever they want to do, even if it means ratings everything 1 (or 5).

I'm aware that there are people who will rate everything they come across as 1, but I think the best levels will thrive regardless, as the reception of those would be overwhelmingly positive anyway.

I'm pretty sure trolls won't have an effect on the portal leaderboard.
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