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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2011, 10:06:14 PM »

Good work on the OP.

Before I contribute, I want to be clear on the purpose of the list. Are you compiling just who is objectively the very fastest per level?

If so, I can help. But I may say things people don't want to hear, and I don't want to get involved if the list becomes a character popularity contest, and there ends up being 3 characters next to every level.


Thanks! Well not fastest per level, simply just the fastest, but I'll state who it was completed with. Let's say Runman on level 1-3 completes the level in 1.10 seconds, but Flywrench completes it in 1.00 seconds, I consider Flywrench faster for that chapter and I'll put Flywrench next to 1-3. I'm considering just putting the fastest time completed on the level, plain and simple, if new methods arise I'll update the guide, what do you guys think? May I ask, what type of things would you say that people wouldn't want to hear?
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« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2011, 10:22:26 PM »

I think if times are close enough together - it is OK to put more than one character.

Like on 5-7 : Runman can get 12, Naija can get 11 : no other character can come close to those.

There's a level with Ogmo up there, I'd take him off - he's not the fastest anywhere at all. I think we need to compile the pool of data first (within reason) - THEN clean up and tweak everything.
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« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2011, 10:42:21 PM »

I think if times are close enough together - it is OK to put more than one character.

Like on 5-7 : Runman can get 12, Naija can get 11 : no other character can come close to those.

There's a level with Ogmo up there, I'd take him off - he's not the fastest anywhere at all. I think we need to compile the pool of data first (within reason) - THEN clean up and tweak everything.

Fixed! I guess you're right, but as EmmaWatsonsBF stated we don't want a character competition. As of now, I just want to get this guide as complete as possible. Any ideas on how multiple people could edit the forum post?
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« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2011, 11:11:37 PM »

May I ask, what type of things would you say that people wouldn't want to hear?

Chiefly that Viridian is poop. He's listed next to a few levels in Chapter 1 (for starters) where he is not nearly as fast as Naija. I think a lot of people do not know that he is poop.

As far as multiple times go, I think we need to explicitly define "close enough together" as a percentage of the fastest time. Otherwise we will quickly be back to playing favorites.
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« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2011, 11:19:26 PM »

May I ask, what type of things would you say that people wouldn't want to hear?

Chiefly that Viridian is poop. He's listed next to a few levels in Chapter 1 (for starters) where he is not nearly as fast as Naija. I think a lot of people do not know that he is poop.

As far as multiple times go, I think we need to explicitly define "close enough together" as a percentage of the fastest time. Otherwise we will quickly be back to playing favorites.

True, all we need is proof then there wont be anyone playing favorites and no one will be able to disagree with anything here, unless they can beat/prove it, which is why I wanted to start the post in the first place. As you can see I have posted the entire Original Post on TypeWithMe, so you can go ahead and start editing it whenever you feel like.
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« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2011, 01:49:34 PM »

I think Naija is best for 1-11x.

I added my time (2.91s) with video to the document. (I hope I did this right. ^^)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maplj43-Nl8
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« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2011, 02:10:48 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIJeTo7GdqE#t=56s

3-13 with Captain V. It can also be done with me boy by jumping throw the last corner if timed just right but you won't get as good of a time.
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« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2011, 03:05:02 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIJeTo7GdqE#t=56s

3-13 with Captain V. It can also be done with me boy by jumping throw the last corner if timed just right but you won't get as good of a time.

I am almost positive you can skip the second corner with Meat Boy in addition, and get a comparable time. When I ran that level with Meat Ninja on Xbox, I would some times accidentally slip by the saw blade without teleporting. I have yet to recreate it on purpose with Meat Boy, though, so Viridian is fine for the list.

Edit: Actually, the Meat Boy way would be 2 seconds faster. It would be really hard if possible.
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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2011, 06:40:48 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIJeTo7GdqE#t=56s

3-13 with Captain V. It can also be done with me boy by jumping throw the last corner if timed just right but you won't get as good of a time.

I am almost positive you can skip the second corner with Meat Boy in addition, and get a comparable time. When I ran that level with Meat Ninja on Xbox, I would some times accidentally slip by the saw blade without teleporting. I have yet to recreate it on purpose with Meat Boy, though, so Viridian is fine for the list.

Edit: Actually, the Meat Boy way would be 2 seconds faster. It would be really hard if possible.

As of now, I'm going to add Captain Viridian and the video link, but if you guys manage find a faster way to do it.

Also a side note, if anyone wants to update the guide you can go to the TypeWithMe link at the top of the post and edit it there, and just let me know what you fix, it will greatly cut down on the time needed to update it. Thanks so much guys!
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« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2011, 08:57:55 PM »

I went through and edited chapter 1.

Chapter 1: The Forest
Light World:
  • 1-1:  Meat Boy Meat Boy - 0.95 seconds (0.887 w/ Meat Boy -- EmmaWatsonsBF)
  • 1-2:  Naija
  • 1-3:  Runman
  • 1-4:  Naija
  • 1-5:  Naija
  • 1-6:  Naija
  • 1-7:  Naija
  • 1-8:  Naija or Meat Boy Meat Boy
  • 1-9:  Naija
  • 1-10: Naija
  • 1-11: Naija
  • 1-12: Meat Boy Meat Boy - 1.19 seconds
  • 1-13: Naija
  • 1-14: Naija (3.23 -- EmmaWatsonsBF) or Viridian (3.44 -- AlwaysSleepyGuy)
  • 1-15: Naija
  • 1-16: Naija
  • 1-17: Naija
  • 1-18: Runman
  • 1-19: Runman - 5.84 seconds
  • 1-20: Naija
    Dark World:
  • 1-1X:  Meat Boy Meat Boy or Runman
  • 1-2X:  Naija
  • 1-3X:  Naija
  • 1-4X:  Naija
  • 1-5X:  Naija
  • 1-6X:  Naija
  • 1-7X:  Naija
  • 1-8X:  Runman
  • 1-9X:  Naija (3.379 -- EmmaWatsonsBF)
  • 1-10X: Naija
  • 1-11X: Naija 2.91
  • 1-12X: The Kid
  • 1-13X: Naija
  • 1-14X: Meat Boy Meat Boy - 6.39 seconds
  • 1-15X: Naija
  • 1-16X: Naija
  • 1-17X: Naija - 2.92 seconds
  • 1-18X: Runman
  • 1-19X: Runman
  • 1-20X: Naija


    (I told you it would be easier to start with all-Naija.  Meat Boy

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« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2011, 09:37:28 PM »

I went through and edited chapter 1.

Chapter 1: The Forest
Light World:
  • 1-1:  Meat Boy Meat Boy - 0.95 seconds (0.887 w/ Meat Boy -- EmmaWatsonsBF)
  • 1-2:   Naija
  • 1-3:   Runman
  • 1-4:   Naija
  • 1-5:   Naija
  • 1-6:   Naija
  • 1-7:   Naija
  • 1-8:   Naija or Meat Boy Meat Boy
  • 1-9:   Naija
  • 1-10: Naija
  • 1-11: Naija
  • 1-12: Meat Boy Meat Boy - 1.19 seconds
  • 1-13: Naija
  • 1-14: Naija (3.23 -- EmmaWatsonsBF) or Viridian (3.44 -- AlwaysSleepyGuy)
  • 1-15: Naija
  • 1-16: Naija
  • 1-17: Naija
  • 1-18: Runman
  • 1-19: Runman - 5.84 seconds
  • 1-20: Naija
    Dark World:
  • 1-1X:  Meat Boy Meat Boy or Runman
  • 1-2X:   Naija
  • 1-3X:  Naija
  • 1-4X:   Naija
  • 1-5X:   Naija
  • 1-6X:   Naija
  • 1-7X:   Naija
  • 1-8X:   Runman
  • 1-9X:   Naija (3.379 -- EmmaWatsonsBF)
  • 1-10X: Naija
  • 1-11X: Naija 2.91
  • 1-12X: The Kid
  • 1-13X: Naija
  • 1-14X: Meat Boy Meat Boy - 6.39 seconds
  • 1-15X: Naija
  • 1-16X: Naija
  • 1-17X: Naija - 2.92 seconds
  • 1-18X: Runman
  • 1-19X: Runman
  • 1-20X: Naija


    (I told you it would be easier to start with all-Naija.  Meat Boy


Honestly, I can't thank you enough, and yes you were right, which is why I have updated the guide to your liking haha . However, if anyone disagrees with anything, let us know!

Hopefully later we can go through and try to find videos of all the edits, especially for levels such as 1-12x with The Kid.
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« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2011, 09:42:37 PM »

Isn't Naija the best for 1-1?  I have 0.85 seconds on it, and I'm still in leaderboard position 300-something.
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« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2011, 09:46:33 PM »

Isn't Naija the best for 1-1?  I have 0.85 seconds on it, and I'm still in leaderboard position 300-something.

Added as well, I feel like EmmaWatsonsBF is going to try and beat your score though haha.
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« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2011, 02:50:51 AM »

Throwing out some levels I've played lately off the top of my head:

2-7X is Naija

For Hell you can pretty much slap Naija on everything. 4-14X is Runman, 4-19 and 4-19X are stupid levels where you wait for a platform to descend and do one drop so I have no idea what's best there. Can't recall any other exceptions right now. And how is that video proof for Viridian on 4-3 and 4-3X? That's not even close to Naija's times.

edit - oh yeah, 4-12 and 4-12X are Meat Boy I think? Might be something else I'm forgetting.

5-5X is Naija
5-6 is Naija, see Zed's video
5-7 is Naija, IIRC Runman makes it to the last saws one cycle later, losing by a second or so, not 100% sure on this one
5-7X is Naija
5-9 is Runman
5-9X is Runman
5-11X is Naija/Kid, Naija currently leading (7.45s vs 7.58s)
5-13 is Naija, not close

At the moment I've only uploaded a compilation video of my Hell runs, but I think like one or two of those times are actually the best ones anymore. I was planning to do a Rapture compilation and a chapters 1-3 compilation when I've worked on some more levels.
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« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2011, 03:27:54 AM »

Isn't Naija the best for 1-1?  I have 0.85 seconds on it, and I'm still in leaderboard position 300-something.

Yes, Naija is definitely way better. I have 0.83 with her, u just need to dash as fast as u can when u spawn.

I've got some top times up to world 4, so i will partecipate in this too if you want.
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